two matches to 30. 30-20, 20-30 is definitely possible
If i get enough people to support the idea, I will change it to two TDM matches. The only problem I see with it is that some people have limited playing time, and they may not be able to squeeze in that 4th game.

To be honest, a CTF tournament should never be settled by a TDM match. If it's a draw, rematch.

That sounds like a reasonable alternative, but CTF can take much longer than TDM if the teams are balanced.

How about just making every match count as one match. That doesn't sound so overly complicated right?

People complain about how rep base is easier to get the flag out of then.... that is why we switch teams after 1 game...(Engine)

euros have to make everything so complicated xD
alright douchebags xD

Type out the way you think a match shd be done between U.S team and euro team because its obvious your going to refuse no matter what venom suggests

and a match between 2 euro teams or 2 u.s teams is still going to just stay as
2 games of ctf tiebreaker goes to tdm to 30

Why dont you play EU vs US in "best of 5" mode?

Team that wins 3 matches has won the round.

Match 1+2 on US server
Match 3+4 (if needed) on EU server
Match 5 (if needed) on the server from the team that won match 4.

Something like that. Does not fit to the current system of the tournament. But it would be pretty fair imo.

Really? You stumble in here calling us douchebags for trying to improve on Venom's tournament? If you had read the thread you would perhaps have noticed all the suggestions people have been making. Once you're done reading the thread, you might also want to take a second to realise how totally idiotic your post looks, as it is the only post in the entire thread that is off-topic and does not contribute, even though it angrily tells others to. On top of this, it's the only post that is offensive and tries start more meaningless Euro vs US fingerpointing, while everyone else is staying on-topic and trying to find a solution. In conclusion, be quiet. Don't even reply to this.



It's a decent idea but it involves too many matches, and it doesn't get around the problem that there could potentially be only two games played on US and one on Eu.

The problem is that there's not just one variable, there's two. There's the Euro/US one, and there's the Trando/Rep one. As Venom pointed out, Trandos have the advantage on Engine.

If we're to get anywhere with this, though, we need to ignore one of these. Otherwise we'll be playing way too many matches per round.

In light of this, actually, I'd be willing to consider a TDM as a solution, because it negates one of those variables (Rep/Trando).

I still think a rematch is a good suggestion, though, and I still think a CTF tournament should be settled by CTF matches as much as possible.

Therefore, I propose this

1. Match on US
2. Match on Eu
3. If it's a draw, teams can choose between
3.a. Play a TDM.
3.b. Go back to 1 (rematch). If there is another tie, go to 3.a. (TDM).

The problem is then, obviously, to decide where the TDM is played. I can only think of one idea: adding up the individual scores that the players in each team accumulated over both matches, and the team with the highest amount of points get to pick server. Even though it's the score and not the points that matter in CTF, they still show dominance. It's not perfect but it's the best I can do. There is no completely fair way of picking a server.

Yeah nvm didn't see this was bracket. But if you ever do clan or w/e ladder, just count 1 match as 1. Much easier.

Not many of us have time for FIVE CTF matches.... The team that won match 4 wouldn't necessarily be a fair way to do it either.



I technically am proposing this, but the thing is, taking the top players score is the easiest because either way, all players have the same chances of outscoring their other teammates and opponents. During each match, no matter what server, each team gets the same amount of points for a flag cap, kill and a flag return. I am trying to save everyone the time of the TDM match if we can. If you play on a server that doesn't count flag caps or returns, everyone is getting the same scoring system during that match...

Rio stop.

Clan versus clan is not going to happen in the foreseeable future because there are clans with no members, and there are the clans with the majority of players(TX/RC). More activity would help them. Until I can find an algorithm that doesn't highly favor activity, I am going to try to keep away from them.

I'd suggest doing it like Overtime rules in the NFL. Sudden-death style. If its a tie, they make a group decision as to where they play, and the set the match so that the first person to score 2 times in a row wins. If it cannot be accomplished in one match, the next match is played on a server from the other continent, same rules. If it is Eu vs US, the team with the ping disadvantage gets Trando to help compensate. If its US vs US, do a sudden death 1v1 between the players of your choice to a score of 1. First person to kill the other gets to pick what team they play on. Its not perfect, but its an idea. And it would result in only 2 full length matches, and only one or two shortened matches.

Well there is no one that says you have to play all matches at the same time. The tournament will take over a month anyway so playing 1 match a day is good enough xD

There are two teams signed up. The sooner we fill the bracket the sooner we can start! Once this bracket is done with, we are hoping to have our new script made.
I am pretty sure everyone can fit one match a week in....
Please talk to your friends, and try to make teams ASAP.
Thanks,
VenoM

Yeah, just ignore all the feedback. At least now I know that I don't need to waste any more time making suggestions to help you.

I haven't ignored the feedback at all. I just think that people don't have enough time to play too many matches. I have offered a simple and fair solution to the server situation because, technically, there are no fair ways to decide whether or not we play on a European server or a US server.

Last I checked, I had responded to all of the feedback that was previously posted in this topic.

Breaking Point isn't warzone. We don't have an inactive 7 person staff working on setting up tournaments every 3-6 months. I am pushing to keep activity and competition in the community. I am attempting to make everything as efficient and fair as possible.

Until there are more people suggesting things to me before I launch a tournament, odds are things will be launched as fairly as I can make them until I get an overwhelming vote to change a rule.

I'm not trying to be an ass at all, nor am I taking shots at anyone(even though it may seem as if i am). I am simply stating the facts. One man will come up with ideas, and others can find 50 other ways to critique it without realizing how much work goes into things. If you'd like to help with planning, be my guest. I'd appreciate the help.

tl;dr
It's impossible to please everyone. Post on the Breaking Point forum if you have any ideas(before a tournament).