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 Post subject: Build a Desktop
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:25 pm 
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I recently fell into enough cash to finance this expenditure, however, hardware tech advances way too quickly for me to bother to keep up with it.

It would help a lot if some of you could make a list of what YOU would put on your desktop, that would be fantastic


Parts list:
Motherboard
CPU
RAM
Graphics Card
Sound Card
Hard Drive
Monitor
Power Supply
Optical Drive
Cooling unit?
Peripherals

I figure everything else is pretty much okay if I buy the cheapest



Does anyone know if Intel's new i7 is worth the extra $100-150? Would I be better off just buying the Quad?

Also, Windows 7 or Vista?

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 Post subject: Re: Build a Desktop
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:30 pm 
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Motherboard:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188040

CPU:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115041

RAM:3 of these and who cares about your memory clock you can just change it http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820134657

Graphics Card:1 should do it but i guess you could do 2 or even 3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814143140

Sound Card:mobo already has an ok on board one but i guess if you really wanted to http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6829102023

Hard Drive:Quick cool and quiet http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822136296

Monitor:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824176112

Power Supply:plenty of power i use one of the same brand in mine love it cheap but quality they make some products for the U.S military also http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817182069

Optical Drive:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151171

Cooling unit:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118003

ohh and your gunna need a decent case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811133021 lots of room

total: 1300$ thats what i would do atm if i had cash i would go with an amd platform but the am3 socket just came out and there aint much for it yet

oh and windows 7 even though its based on vista its better


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 Post subject: Re: Build a Desktop
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:27 pm 
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that case is nice and big and all, I built a computer for a friend in one of em... but it's like 80 bagillion pounds >.< and you're never gunna use that many drive bays..

and i would go with a different psu... get a modular one... it will save you time and a lot of space

also that monitor is tiny for a nice new computer... get at least a 22 inch

and that memory is cheap... I would go for something better like some xms or something

alsoo that drive is really nice and all but you are gunna fill it up in a day... think about getting like a tb drive for other stuff too

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 Post subject: Re: Build a Desktop
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and just for an easy cheap laptop to carry around I was thinking

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... A180-15603


and I'm planning on buying a TB external

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 Post subject: Re: Build a Desktop
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:05 pm 
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listening to miners hardwarechoice is like putting yourself a knife in your breast...

and rhk, it doesnt matter how big your screen is oO

i have 19" and i cant complain..

( but i would be much happier with a 22" [giggle] [but bigger screen-> better videocard])

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 Post subject: Re: Build a Desktop
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virus, it's hard to take someone seriously when they have a sig that makes me want to punch babies

however, instead of bashing other people's recommendations, you might want to provide some of your own for comparison

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 Post subject: Re: Build a Desktop
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:52 pm 
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tell me your maximum amount of money you want to spend, what you want(new screen? size? sound system? 2.1? 5.1? etc), what you want to play(or if you want to use it as media station etc.)

then gimme some time (if im not afk, dr. house starts in 20 mins :P)
tomorrow morning (in about 12-14h) you will have an amount of links here, perfect personalized, to make you happy

but for this, i need informations

take you some time to think what you really want to do with it, if you want some optical tidbits, maybe overclock-ready system etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Build a Desktop
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I'd prefer not to go over $1500, but tell me if there's a reallly good reason why I should

Sound system is really more an afterthought, because I've never heard much of a difference, but let me know if there's something I'm missing.

I mainly play TF2, HL2, and probly L4D2 when it comes out, so nothing too processor-heavy in that regard

However, I do a lot of music/media creation on my own and my processor right now just can't keep up (lags when I dub too much in, etc)


I don't know anything about overclocking so any help you could give me there would be awesome (pros/cons, whether it's even necessary)

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 Post subject: Re: Build a Desktop
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[url]I don't know anything about overclocking so any help you could give me there would be awesome (pros/cons, whether it's even necessary)[/url]

i have an Intel Q6600, my friend has one, we have almost the same systems (only other mainboard, cooling, drives and case) Mine is overclocked on 4x3Ghz (standard is 4x2,4Ghz), gta4 works better on my comp than on his. desktop and multimedia, no, no difference... but its better to know how to overclock, saves money... we dont know what games will come out, or what programs, maybe in 5 years, you need something more powerful as processor, than you buy now... but mainly, if you dont want to overclock, you save money in mainboard, cooling (fans, heatsink, case).
taken together:
Pro: saving money
Contra: you need skills (inform yourself etc.); more expensive heatsinks, fans, case, mainboard; you could destroy anything (i doubt that, cuz todays mainboards are safe, but i dont know what people do physically with their computer parts [giggle] )
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I'd prefer not to go over $1500, but tell me if there's a reallly good reason why I should


pretty much money for a multimedia pc, you could get a very high end pc for it... sphinx bought a pc, with intel core i7, Gtx260, 6 gigs of ram and an expensive mainboard (all mainboards for this new standard socket, like the i7 has, are expensive)

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Sound system is really more an afterthought, because I've never heard much of a difference, but let me know if there's something I'm missing.


if you are a person, who really wants to enjoy movies and music, thing is, are you interessted in 5.1? or is the normal 2.1, as known as "stereo", enough for you?, for 2.1, i would recommend the Logitech X-230 system, about 50 bucks, 2 friends have it, and they like it, and they are right, its pretty good, especially for this price. If you would be an enthusiast, logitech wouldnt be enough, you should get a "Teufel" Concept, about 200€ for this piece of gold
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or a homecinema system for 400€
Image... but youre no interessted i guess, if yes, your would have your own cinema in your room, teufel is one of the best sound manufacturer on the world, and these systems are payable, next issue

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I mainly play TF2, HL2, and probly L4D2 when it comes out, so nothing too processor-heavy in that regard


i dont know much about l4d2, isnt it just an upgraded source engine? if yes, a 50€ videocard would be enough, but we dont know what the future brings, i gonne search a mid-high card for you, like the gtx260 or higher.

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However, I do a lot of music/media creation on my own and my processor right now just can't keep up (lags when I dub too much in, etc)


i bet you have a typically repcom computer, about 10 years, eh? ^^

a quad(intel, cuz amd is crap) and 4 gigs of ram should do it.

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Also, Windows 7 or Vista?


Win7, i already knew it, and read tons about it, that its just vista, like it should be. The nice thing on it, you can get the release candidate for free, until the real Win7 comes out. saving money, and after it, you can get it pirated or just buy it, your decision...
but dont get vista, not in your life. better getting XP than vista, but for future win7, and its pretty fast though ( sphinx just told me today, how faster and better it is)


some questions:

How many space do you want? 500gigs? 1 terrabyte (recommend) or maybe 2 Terrabyte?. Forget the external, get 1 Terrabyte internal, and maybe if you want a 500GB external ( i got on my own 250GB intern + 1TB intern + 500GB extern)
its just faster, and i dont know anything, what is over 500GB big, what you want to transport...

Optical drives, What exactly?
DVD burner? DVD burner with Lightscrible? Blueray? Anything to it? maybe another DVD-Drive, or cardreader? Floppy?

another question, do you know how to build a pc? or do you have friends, or maybe a shop, who will build from the parts you bough a pc?
and do you maybe know another american internetshop for hardware?

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Core i7;
what is it? its the new generation of cpu's of intel, 45nm, quadcore, 8.192 KiByte L3 cache, 4 Physical , and 4 virtual cores, so there are 8 cores.

Q: For what the hell do i need 8 cores?
A: Nothing, not now. GTA IV is the first game, which supports 4 cores, and uses is correctly, i dont know what games will follow this, but there wont be any games, who will support 100% of 8 Cores for the next 2 years.

Q: i actually dont play so much games on my computer, i use it more for working and movies, will the Corei7 make my computer faster?
A: Nope, Windows XP and Vista use only 2 cores, not more.

Q: Why the hell should i get a 4 Core CPU, if Win Vista and XP are too retarded to support that?
A: The final version of Win7 supports up to 256 Cores
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Q: Why not an i7 then?
A: Well, actually your choice, If you want an i7, you need a special mainboard, special ram (DDR3) and that costs more, than the normal things, but if you are willed to spend about 300 more, congratualations sir, you have a machine from hell.

-Thank you Virus, that was an interessting interview, you helped a lot!

-No problem sir, im happy to help.

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 Post subject: Re: Build a Desktop
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:07 pm 
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I want the external so I can use it easily with my laptop as well


The optical drive would be fine if I just had a burner, no blu-ray or anything


I can build it, I just need help figuring out exactly WHAT to get

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 Post subject: Re: Build a Desktop
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:33 pm 
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Core i7, yes or no?
Optical, like: OMG AWESOME LIGHTS AND WINDOW IN MAH CASE!!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH AWESOME!; or: I dont buy me a pc to stare at it, i wanna work with it!
HDD: 1500$ is more than enough to get both :P
but if you want to work with it, i recommend a 1TB Main-Hard Disc Drive, just faster than USB or FW. Get an extra 500GB external, for data change with your lappy etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Build a Desktop
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Is the core i7 actually worth the big bucks I pay for it?

Skip all the bells and whistles, I dont care how it looks as long as it works.

Just because I have the money doesn't mean I'll waste it on things I dont really NEED

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 Post subject: Re: Build a Desktop
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if u wanna try out w7 u need to get it befor the 1 of july ::. w7 is so much better then vista.

my tip for you buy the best things you can afford then u dont need to buy new things in a long time.

i7 rocks btw

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 Post subject: Re: Build a Desktop
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w7 is so much better then vista.


Not hard to improve on crap. [giggle]

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w7 is so much better then vista.


Not hard to improve on crap. [giggle]


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