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 Post subject: Meta Shift
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:07 am 
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So as everyone has noticed meta has shifted a bit to Warmogs on everyone.
How is everyone dealing with this change? Since my favorite positions are ap carry and support I personally hate it, The fact that peeling for my carry has become alot more difficult due to 5 enemies with warmogs ignoring everything my team can throw at them.
And as an ap mid I feel as if I do no damage and I am irrelvant pass mid game. You could say build liandrys but it isn't as effective as one might think due to being jumped on by a kha, talon, panth, or riven.

This could just be me being a noob or is it really looking as if AP mids will no longer hold a place in the meta soon enough? Due to the ability of assassin to provide insane burst that as strong if not stronger then most ap`s and has auto attacks that provide moderate damage to boot.

And I don't believe stacking armor(Not to mention it delays crucial damage items) helps due to how they changed the calculation in armor pen and how expensive armor is to purchase nowadays.

So thoughts? Opinions? Open for debate I just would like to start an interesting debate topic that shouldn't be taken out of hand and should serve as a means to provide advice to your fellow clanmates. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Meta Shift
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:05 am 
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I can see what you are saying. I noticed that particularly with the Taric, Urgot combo bot. Another newly popular move is to put a bruiser mid. For example in mid someone who counters bruisers with fair ease is Rumble. A Wukong can have a difficult time killing Rumble with his low cool downs, sustained damage, and mobility. I've also seen a lot more apcs building spell vamp. Again using the example of Rumble, while he is using his q he is dealing sustained damage and gaining health. I don't have a definite solution but a Zhonyas used when the burst is about to be dealt saves you from a lot of damage and focuses it on your tanks. Thats what I have observed. But it does seem that the apc is becoming obsolete in the face of high-health, high-damage assassins and bruisers.

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 Post subject: Re: Meta Shift
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:17 am 
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Vandal wrote:
I can see what you are saying. I noticed that particularly with the Taric, Urgot combo bot. Another newly popular move is to put a bruiser mid. For example in mid someone who counters bruisers with fair ease is Rumble. A Wukong can have a difficult time killing Rumble with his low cool downs, sustained damage, and mobility. I've also seen a lot more apcs building spell vamp. Again using the example of Rumble, while he is using his q he is dealing sustained damage and gaining health. I don't have a definite solution but a Zhonyas used when the burst is about to be dealt saves you from a lot of damage and focuses it on your tanks. Thats what I have observed. But it does seem that the apc is becoming obsolete in the face of high-health, high-damage assassins and bruisers.


Agreed, But my poor ziggs cant afford to rush spell vamp. [nay] He needs his early game poke before everyone finishes their warmogs and he becomes nothing more then a funny looking squirrel with bombs that tickle, late game. :'(

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 Post subject: Re: Meta Shift
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:32 am 
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What is your build for him? Because some of the new items could help you against tanks.

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 Post subject: Re: Meta Shift
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:35 pm 
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I tend to go RoA, Rabadons, Zhonyas, sorc shoes, And the rest is situattional but If I get a will it tends to be my last item.

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 Post subject: Re: Meta Shift
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:39 am 
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Yeah maybe you should add Liandra's (or however you spell it) torment gives decent health and some good magic pen. I build it on rumble and it certainly helps eat through the health of a tankier champ.

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