Please. "Thirteen";13;Marietta;Marie will do. =]
But sorry RHK, just turns out we're relatively the same when it comes to opinions on controversial topics. Maybe im actually you too, someone check the IP's.

Back to relevance. The only time I think an Abortion should be approved upon is when there are cases in which it is necessary to terminate a pregnancy, lest the mother and/or the child die. In such cases of medical emergency and in the interest of saving life, surely it is permissible to abort the fetus. Other than that, nope. =]

but what about the baby's freedom rhk. just because it isnt born yet it isnt a human? its going to be one so why should not be considered a living thing. ask your self what if that was your mother and you were the baby, would you want to die just because your mother wants her freedom to what she wants with her body. its still a person if you take an egg with a baby chick inside and smash it isnt that killing it?

I'm not saying it's not living, but it isn't technically a normal human, an early fetus has no thought, no feeling, and it isn't a being. This fact pretty much helps support my thoughts and not yours, "ask your self what if that was your mother and you were the baby" If I was the baby, I wouldn't have any idea if I was a human baby, or if I was a hippo. At that early stage (First Trimester) your fetus isn't very human and in fact at early stages the fetus has more similarities to a fish and even a bird rather than a human. "if you take an egg with a baby chick inside and smash it isnt that killing it?" It depends on how far it has developed. And do you eat eggs? That is just an infertile egg that had potential to become an chicken, so in your theory you are killing a chicken's chance every time you eat and egg.

Here some visual aid

but it will be a human wont it so then why should we treat it as if it has no future and wont be a human, just because a baby hasn't matured yet doesn't mean it is going to be a part of society one day so should we just kill it because it isn't anything now.

Yes but consider this: don't you think it would be better for a child at an early fetus stage to be aborted from an unfit mother. Say a single mother who got knocked up or a mother of 8 who doesn't have the money to support another child, or a woman who was raped, is she NOT allowed to get an abortion for a child she never intended to have from a man who raped her. Some people just aren't ready for a child or just aren't suited for one. Do you really want a child growing up in an unfit home having a horrible life

iam not asking that iam saying should we kill a new born because it technically isn't a person. please answer the question.

Uhm we aren't talking about killing a newborn child here sith...

AND FOR CHRIST SAKE IT'S EITHER "I am" or "I'm"

stop correcting my grammar and tell me what is the difference between kill a fetus and and killing a new born.

A fetus is an underdeveloped fertile egg, that has no feeling, no thought, and no being.

A Newborn has feeling, thought, and being.

(at least read my previous posts)

The Doctor, me, rules that at least 5 sentences should be posted in response to a question/statement in acceptance or denial. As for me, however, I decree that I must be on the same side as RHK. It isn't technically an unborn child, nor a newborn. Its a Fetus. And in the case of rape, etc-bad conditions. It would definitely be the best thing, probably for everyone, to have the baby aborted. True, it doesn't possess an ability to think for itself but if it was mental, born into a bad family, wasn't able to be taken care of, im sure it would have wanted to not have that.

P.S. Dunno if you are, but if you're getting aggravated/frustrated please hold out for 24 hours before posting. We don't want flamage on my beautiful topic. We don't want any of this going on:
= flame = not good.

then i guess you can relate to it huh

Knock it off, Sith. This isn't a flame thread. Make one of those if you seriously insist. But if you cant accept a "debate" and want to make an argument im going to have to ask you to leave.

so you guys are saying its ok to kill a fetus because it hasn't matured yet.

Not necessarily. I still only believe that in the certain situations is it OK to kill/abort the fetus. Any other time, I do believe that the fetus does has a chance in life it should be given it; full fledged. However, like I said previously, if it wont make it, or wouldn't want to make it in life then it would most likely be best to have it aborted. So its a yes no answer from me. Only in case of rape or any type of unconstitutional sex which results in pregnancy is it OK to abort. Any other than that, its not. However, I also believe that the fate of the baby is indeed completely up to the mother. Besides, the studies of Immunology states that if the fetus was technically subclassified as a "not me" instead of a "me", when it comes to genetics, cells, etc, it would be rejected in the mother's womb by attacking antibodies and white blood cells. If nature ran its course with what would seem to be a technical problem, there would be no children. But that was kinda irrelevant and complicated... oops.

so then you are not entirely for it, the main reason iam against abortion is because it many happen each day and it can be abused by women and have sex think that if she gets pregnant think she can just abort the child and take no responsibility for it.(last post here laterz)