I didn't say that Razer mouses aren't good. I said their ergonomy and manfucturing quality can be better. And in this way, Logitech beats them easily, because they're simply better manufactured.

All in all, Logitech is my personal favourite, although Razer mouses are, if you just look at hardware, as good as Logitech.

I have a Razer Deathadder too. The best mouse i ever had. I played with a mx518 before and the Razer is dimensions better. And the material of the Razer mouses is also a bit better than the logitech stuff.
But in the end it´s everyones opinion which mouse is better for him

meh well, i am currently using it on a wood desk, and the slides already got a few scratches and arent working 100% anymore, so i guess i'll get a mouspad. Is there any difference between the mouspads

EDIT; btw i had the Logitech MX510 before i switched to Razer Diamondback, and the logitech mx510 was nowhere near the Razer ... just deal with it Vashy

ye there are much differences:

1. material ... there are the usual ones,fibertek ones, the glossy ones and glass ones... glass shud be the expensivest
2. mats are made for two types of gaming: speed and control ...so if u play with a high sensitivity buy a speed mat...if u play low-sense buy a control mat
3. the size ... mats can be small and big ... i prefer big mats
4. some mats are better for optical and some are made for lasermouses


there are so much mats on the market... i dunno which is better than the other one ..i just got positive feedback for steelseries mats... ask virus ..i think he plays one too .... i use the razer mantis control and its ok too... it all depends on how much money u want to spend on it...

yep, steelseries Stellpad 5L , pefect for lasermouses...costs me 26€ (40€ on steelseries homepage 0.0)
but dont buy an ICEPAD if you have laser, it doesnt work good with it...

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Lol, Razer mouses feel gay?

I've never tried one.

well, i have the razer death adder...since 2 years now i think.
my friend has a G5 (best logitech mouse ever) and i dont like it much...i was sum time ago in biggest electro shop in europe (media markt) and i touched every mouse ( :P ) Razer Death adder and Diamondback were just the best...G7 -> suck MX518 -> suck every other logitech mouse -> suck

Btw i forgot to post my setup.
I play a razer deathadder on a razer mantiz speed mat.

ye man right hand on a razer mouse is like wearing plush-gloves... best ergonmy ever. at least death adder and db have pretty much the same look

now 2 years old, still working.

thats a razer graphit ;)

thats why it wont get broken the next following 15 years :P

i have a four year old stock optical dell mouse with 50dpi( and i still pwn) it spazzes out sometimes dosent move is very uncomfortable but i manage
oh and my mosue pad is this shitty little plastic mouse pad tahts falling apart

Sheesh nubs, try the Reaper Edge. Friend has a Razer and I prefer this any day.