This is just my opinion but at this point in the game should loyalty really be that big of an issue? From what I have seen Scar is obviously good enough, if not better then most of the newer people here. That's not something that is common around here. Just let him in and if he leaves, then he leaves. Nothing really happens to Redcell. It just keeps going.
Peace.
Also, I left and rejoined Redcell a few times, but on my 3rd chance I am still here.
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But Sonsi, all clans are held together by is loyalty. That's how they last and gain respect in a community. Without Nokills loyality there would be no clan. Loyalty is the main reason Redcell has lived so long without dieng, because in honesty we take this seriously. Other clans died because their members weren't loyal enough to the clan or the game. Being nothing more than a Pvt as Scarv would be if accepted is no exception, for I was once a private and so has everyone else or is. Each rank and member is valued, accepting someone below a specific standard of lacking quality affects us as a whole and our reputation. We want what the word defines: a strong feeling of support and allegiance.
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Sonsi wrote:
This is just my opinion but at this point in the game should loyalty really be that big of an issue?
Yes it is. It's the basic for a clan. Without it, we would just be a mob with the same interest.
Wikipedia wrote:
Loyalty is faithfulness or a devotion to a person, country, group, or cause.
For sure he is skilled enough, but I think he sees the clan with other eyes. There is no problem to play with us even he is not in the clan. The most of us likes him, and since the clanmatches aren't the same like they were in the past, he can even play with us in scrims.
Just give him this "Friend of RedCell"-avatar, just like Vash.
But Sonsi, all clans are held together by is loyalty. That's how they last and gain respect in a community. Without Nokills loyality there would be no clan. Loyalty is the main reason Redcell has lived so long without dieng, because in honesty we take this seriously. Other clans died because their members weren't loyal enough to the clan or the game. Being nothing more than a Pvt as Scarv would be if accepted is no exception, for I was once a private and so has everyone else or is. Each rank and member is valued, accepting someone below a specific standard of lacking quality affects us as a whole and our reputation. We want what the word defines: a strong feeling of support and allegiance.
Nice speak drinka.
Scarv...Scarv Scarv, we can say a lot about you but i will stay neutral for this app. I will let u a chance to prove that u "changed". I know that ur skill is good enough but i'm not the type of guy who say u can be in only with skill, prove me u changed and i will be for ur app.
Syndicat, ur so rude with him, u don't let a chance to prove that he changed...
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Shyvana wrote:
Syndicat, ur so rude with him, u don't let a chance to prove that he changed...
He had enough chances.
Further I don't forget, how he thrown us away for TeamXtreme, we was his second choice guys! And I also don't forget how he misused StatusQ3's trust.
Guys, maybe I take this too serious, but he shows kinda arrogance. How can he dare to apply again after all this bullshit he did to us? I connect this with my pride as a member in this clan, are we a home for this kind of members?!
Anyway, you even didn't make a feedback about the question I asked you ScarV. What's the reason?
Shame? No words? Or are you just accepting, that you're not suitable for this clan and your arguments would be irrelevant?
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I agree with Deluxe.
If TX denied him who are we to accept him? It's in even worse situation for us because we were his second choice. The first time you got accepted you left and went to TX and then left them and then came to us and then left us and then went to them. I don't even know how many times you have applied to TX or what your story is there, but you fucked up. You don't deserve Redcell.
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If TX denied him who are we to accept him?It's in even worse situation for us because we were his second choice. The first time you got accepted you left and went to TX and then left them and then came to us and then left us and then went to them. I don't even know how many times you have applied to TX or what your story is there, but you fucked up. You don't deserve Redcell.
Ng?Hor?Jb?
RedCell have a rules that after two leaving, a guy can't make an other app?
I agree that this is really bad bienhavour.
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I give it up, it seems like you even dont care...
Matt 18:21-22 wrote:
Then Peter came up and said to him, "Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? As many as seven times?" Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you seven times, but seventy times seven..."
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Then Peter came up and said to him, "Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? As many as seven times?" Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you seven times, but seventy times seven..."
Some irrelevant input upon this quote:
Spoiler:
Thanks for this perfect quote Deluxe This quote basicly means that we should forgive him, every single time he comes here. It basicly says that you should not just forgive him seven times (one of the most significant numbers in christianity), but even seventy times 7, which is supoosed to express infinity here. How do I know that? Student of Theology my friends Also remind this is the most plain analysis of this quote, as the other ones require some background knowledge.
Also I have enough of this hate here, so do you gyus mind staying outa here until there is something new / of value to say? I am going to have yet an other chat with ScarV in private, as he mostly answered all of your questions to me already.
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So guys here are some facts regarding ScarVs last leave:
At this time he was the only active member, besides of Heaven and Eleven. Syndi, you were gone btw., also neither you or me ever reached the rank ScarV had in here, so don't bother about speaking about loyality as he was a LtC while Heaven and you wwere only Sergeants. In more plain words he could be your General right now, also he would have taken the Recruiters spot, you or me currently have.
So Heaven went inactive and well, lets simply not talk about Eleven, that makes ScarV the only active member remaining and now I gently ask you why he should have stayed here, as he was the only active Euro?
SO I can actually ask for a bit more of respect towards him and last but not least, would you people mind looking shit up before hating on someones app and facing him with such a hostility?
To make it short: Scarv remained loyal until he was the last active member in here, he even remained here while there were only 3 active players (including him). Go bitch elsewhere, but this app stays clean now, as I am fed up how you treat him.
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Lionheart wrote:
So guys here are some facts regarding ScarVs last leave:
At this time he was the only active member, besides of Heaven and Eleven. Syndi, you were gone btw., also neither you or me ever reached the rank ScarV had in here, so don't bother about speaking about loyality as he was a LtC while Heaven and you wwere only Sergeants. In more plain words he could be your General right now, also he would have taken the Recruiters spot, you or me currently have.
So Heaven went inactive and well, lets simply not talk about Eleven, that makes ScarV the only active member remaining and now I gently ask you why he should have stayed here, as he was the only active Euro?
SO I can actually ask for a bit more of respect towards him and last but not least, would you people mind looking shit up before hating on someones app and facing him with such a hostility?
To make it short: Scarv remained loyal until he was the last active member in here, he even remained here while there were only 3 active players (including him). Go bitch elsewhere, but this app stays clean now, as I am fed up how you treat him.
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So guys here are some facts regarding ScarVs last leave:
At this time he was the only active member, besides of Heaven and Eleven. Syndi, you were gone btw., also neither you or me ever reached the rank ScarV had in here, so don't bother about speaking about loyality as he was a LtC while Heaven and you wwere only Sergeants. In more plain words he could be your General right now, also he would have taken the Recruiters spot, you or me currently have.
So Heaven went inactive and well, lets simply not talk about Eleven, that makes ScarV the only active member remaining and now I gently ask you why he should have stayed here, as he was the only active Euro?
SO I can actually ask for a bit more of respect towards him and last but not least, would you people mind looking shit up before hating on someones app and facing him with such a hostility?
To make it short: Scarv remained loyal until he was the last active member in here, he even remained here while there were only 3 active players (including him). Go bitch elsewhere, but this app stays clean now, as I am fed up how you treat him.
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It always gets inactive winter and spring, that affects the whole community. I was active that time period, everyday I'd get on with no else from Redcell or any other clan online, but I stayed.
Are you forgetting how Scarv betrayed all the other clans? He didn't just leave us Lion he left everyone else multiple times, look at all the clans he has been in in between the time periods of the two times he left. We are not just looking at the facts here, we're looking more abroad.
Also Heaven has been in waaaaay longer than Scarv, much more loyality there. And yet if Scarv was Rec would he have left like he did? A bad choice for us would have it not?
In conclusion Lion is right, enough bashing Scarv, everyone has made their points. I myself have to stop.
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